tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6198916604300317242.post8525180705441859604..comments2023-03-28T03:18:53.318+13:00Comments on akakiwibear: Diversions - good and badakakiwibearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18324950054939335251noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6198916604300317242.post-85372976676651781352009-09-19T14:29:32.646+12:002009-09-19T14:29:32.646+12:00Anybody who is truly interested in what Loftus is ...Anybody who is truly interested in what Loftus is made of can check out this post:<br /><br />http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2009/09/at-55-today-im-wondering-if-i-can-book.html<br /><br />People who say that by criticizing John we are being off-target with his arguments should know better now after this little gem.Truth Be Toldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02054029140219121029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6198916604300317242.post-25946506605843664552009-09-17T09:14:39.738+12:002009-09-17T09:14:39.738+12:00Here is a challenge to Loftus: Read what I've ...Here is a challenge to Loftus: Read what I've rebuted about the first chapter in your book here: http://www.tektonics.org/ezine/1personal.html<br /><br />Now, after people read that, are they really going to think the issue is all about "personal attacks" or will they ask themselves: Does a person who can't be very consistent with his claims, who needs the floor of discussion almost every ticking second, and requires undeserved recognition come up with logice coherent arguments?<br /><br />That's an important question, regardless of whether or not people choose to accept its importance. Anyone who cares enough to point out the errors in my thinking is certaintly welcome to do so. John?Truth Be Toldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02054029140219121029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6198916604300317242.post-52574674406279450462009-09-16T18:20:05.686+12:002009-09-16T18:20:05.686+12:00John, so truthbetold quotes you as being indebted ...John, so truthbetold quotes you as being indebted to Holding (but it seems for non-intellectual reasons).<br /><br />I fell I should acknowledge a sincere indebitedness to you and DC for challenging my theism and helping me to grow in my theism and develop a better understanding thereof. <br /><br />I guess you had the opposite effect on me that your book may have had on others ;) I may return to DC in the future, I have no plans to so for a while. <br /><br />Hamba kahle - peace.akakiwibearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18324950054939335251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6198916604300317242.post-77242385503383414812009-09-16T18:13:38.807+12:002009-09-16T18:13:38.807+12:00OK kids - chill! This is not a platform for person...OK kids - chill! This is not a platform for personal attack - any more comments in that vein will be deleted.<br /><br />I suggest that John's arguments are sufficiently weak for most theists to defeat them without getting personal - so lets play the ball not the man.<br /><br />Hamba kahle - peaceakakiwibearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18324950054939335251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6198916604300317242.post-5119768934934109072009-09-16T13:27:46.695+12:002009-09-16T13:27:46.695+12:00akakiwibear, I see you took your name off that ign...akakiwibear, I see you took your name off that ignorant Blog. Welcome to the world of civility and self-respect.<br /><br />You are no longer banned from DC. Come back and comment as you wish.<br /><br />Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6198916604300317242.post-82044346355558072009-09-16T11:44:43.558+12:002009-09-16T11:44:43.558+12:00Take your name off that blog and you will no longe...<i>Take your name off that blog and you will no longer be banned from DC. I see that you've recognized the mistake. Correct it and we're good to go.</i><br /><br />Hi there John.<br /><br />I suppose it didn't ever occur to you that you are not free from making personal attacks, yes? <br /><br />You've admitted before that your motives for "debunking" Christianity was based on how Holding "treated" you. I am going to try and speak objectively here in saying that there is little evidence to suggest that you were treated unfairly. You wanted to focus the discussion you were having on your book, and Holding refused to let you have the floor whenever you tried to snatch it. Is there anything wrong with that?<br /><br />Here's an interesting quote from your site. This comes from the book (which was published today) rebutting (er..refuting) your rants:<br /><br />"I want it known by everyone that it was Holding who initially motivated me to debunk Christianity by how he treated me. I decided that I would aim for the jugular vein of a faith that could be used by him to justify his treatment of me. It's to him that I'm indebted to for initially motivating me to do what I'm doing today..."<br /><br />Yet you're trying to make yourself look as though you don't engage in personal vendettas. Pfft!<br /><br />Moral of the day: Stop wailing about Debunking Loftus and look in the mirror, hotshot. Your arguments and personality are inseperable. It doesn't matter what the majority thinks, that's the case. And the only reason you are letting akakiwibear back on your blog is because he no longer belongs to a venue that is set on directly refuting your crap.Truth Be Toldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02054029140219121029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6198916604300317242.post-4143385462874650592009-09-16T08:34:45.617+12:002009-09-16T08:34:45.617+12:00Well spotted John - I had not noticed that my name...Well spotted John - I had not noticed that my name was still there ( I only visited it a few times in the beginning) but since I don't align myself with the tone of the site my name should be removed ... and for that reason alone.<br /><br />One certainly does not need to resort to personal attacks to debunk your views John.<br /><br /><br />Hamba kahle - peaceakakiwibearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18324950054939335251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6198916604300317242.post-72261953974347479942009-09-16T00:01:00.877+12:002009-09-16T00:01:00.877+12:00Take your name off that blog and you will no longe...Take your name off that blog and you will no longer be banned from DC. I see that you've recognized the mistake. Correct it and we're good to go.<br /><br />Your choice. <br /><br />Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com